December 21, 2007
Bah Humbug. My Christmas good cheer was ruined today by Barnes and Noble. On December 13 I placed a big online order (about a third of the total gifts for the kids and Steve- yeah we like books here!) When I checked out, it said the order would be here in three business days. Well today is SIX flippen’ business days later and guess what? NO ORDER!
I checked online only to discover they weren’t planning on sending me the order until December 31. I tried to control the building rage and calmly called them. I was told that 16 of the 23 books had shipped yesterday, although UPS still hasn’t scanned them into the system so that almost always means they haven’t left Barnes and Noble yet. Oh and guess what? They sent them ground from the east coast (that’s five days for those of you who don’t know your coast to coast shipping times.) Oh the trying of my patience!!! The woman kept saying “They COULD get there by Christmas.” I said “Could or might isn’t good enough!” And she kept reassuring me there was a chance. Finally I said “Do you have kids?” And she was silent for a few minutes then said “no.” Then I said “Here’s the deal. I can’t let my children’s Christmas hinge on ‘maybe’ so I’m going to order from somewhere else and return this order. Cancel the remaining books in the order.” And do you know what this women tells me? She can’t. EVEN THOUGH THEY HADN’T SHIPPED. I said “Boy, you really want to make sure I don’t EVER shop with Barnes and Noble again, don’t you?” And all she said was “Sorry.” So I had to go to Amazon.com this afternoon and pay NINETY TWO dollars in shipping to overnight the same order I placed nearly two weeks ago with Barnes and Noble.
What I don’t understand is why so many companies these days think that their customers will take their abuse and still come back? They don’t even care about customer loyalty. I worked for Nordstrom and Neiman Marcus for many years and these type of situations always make me wonder what’s happened to customer service? What has happened to “the customer is always right”? What the hell has happened to “We want your business”? Because the message I keep getting from so many companies today is “We got some of your money already and don’t care if you ever come back!”
There are ways Barnes and Noble could have made things right today. Especially since I pointed out to the girl that my 16 books were probably still in the warehouse somewhere. But she didn’t want to take the time to find out if there was anything she could do. She also couldn’t be bothered to put a supervisor on and she didn’t care that I walked away angry. It’s bad enough that several of those books were for son #2’s birthday and did not arrive. Had they delivered on their three day promise, they would have been here on time. But to be cavalier about getting it to me for Christmas when it’s clear I ordered it in time, is unacceptable.
She tried to tell me that UPS has been really good about getting packages to customers this time of year. Really? Because I ordered a king cake from New Orleans to be delivered on son #2’s birthday. It never came. The website said it was out for delivery and it never arrived. And UPS couldn’t be bothered to try find out where the driver and truck was. Even though it meant my son didn’t have a birthday cake for his 7th birthday.
I used to own an online business and UPS is so bad about getting things to people on time that I stopped using them in my first month in business. When I’m given a choice of shipping companies, I always choose someone else.
I believe that eventually these companies will receive their come uppance. Once the customer service starts slipping, it’s never long before they are filing bankruptcy. And word of mouth is what builds brands, businesses and loyalty. It’s hard to do that when the word of mouth is “YOU SUCK!” Hey Barnes and Noble YOU SUCK!
December 21, 2007 at 4:06 pm
Shipping companies are amazing. According to their website a package for we has been at a town less than 45 minutes drive from me since Tuesday. It was shipped second day so it should have been here on Wednsday. It’s Friday and it still hasn’t made the 45 minute drive yet. If it was a Christmas present I would be all over them but since its for work and I’m going on vacation starting about an a hour ago I can take it in stride. I wonder if it will get here this year?
December 21, 2007 at 4:22 pm
ALfred- Lemme guess? UPS?! And if so, nah, you won’t see it until next year. lol.
December 21, 2007 at 5:55 pm
Good enough for me. To show my solidarity, I shall not shop at the one in town here anymore (I usually go to Books a Million anyway) and I will stop using them for contest prize gift cards.
Attica! Attica!
December 21, 2007 at 5:59 pm
Seriously Helen, that sucks. Serious suck factor there. I do all of my shopping online through Amazon. I can honestly say that the only thing I’ve been disappointed in is that Mr. Hot’s Drag Racing book won’t arrive until 12/27 - but it’s okay - his birthday is 1/1. I changed it to a birthday present
I can’t boycott shopping AT B&N, since my stepson manages one, but I won’t use their online service, okay?
December 21, 2007 at 6:29 pm
Yeah, was about to say the same. We give our local B&N a lot of business but I’ll definitely steer clear of their online storefront. I’ve also been mad at Borders ever since they turned the Varsity into one, so I guess I’ll stick with Kepler’s and Amazon.
December 21, 2007 at 8:11 pm
Mr Fab- You are so sweet. That is why they call you the Fabulous one!
Ree- It so totally sucks, you don’t even know. Sigh. That’s good enough for me! Tell your stepson the online storefront SUX!
Beth- I can settle for that! Yeah the whole Varsity fiasco is a little um, sacrelidge! Kepler’s is a cool little bookstore.
December 22, 2007 at 6:46 pm
That sucks hard. I’ll stay away from the one in my town. Crappy situation. I’m sorry.
December 22, 2007 at 9:31 pm
Thanks Indianamatt! It did suck.
December 25, 2007 at 7:14 am
Hi - I hit your blog on a search - you are lucky you only had one order with Barnes and Noble - they screwed up several orders Christmas 2007 orders for me - in fact all of five orders placed - were screwed up. Several I managed to cancel - but they shipped anyway! The ones they said would ship on time - didn’t the ones they said wouldn’t ship did. They had three manners of telling me the status - all of which were wrong except if I got a tracking number from ups. You are not alone. I think this spells the end of Barnes and Noble - it will fail misserably in the year to come.
December 28, 2007 at 7:36 pm
I could not agree with you more. They were the only company I ordered from that did not deliver on time for Christmas. When I called to try to cancel the books ordered they claimed they could not, yet they shipped them two days later than the day I tried to cancel my order due to their flakiness. They had in red letters “order today receive them by Christmas”. If that is not false advertisement what is! And never did I hear from them an apology. All they have for customers is scolding and short of telling me I was an idiot they used all the tools at hand to lose me as a customer forever. And don´t miss on this one. Since I was going to get the books “by Christmas” I checked to have them wrapped. I thought in my “idiocy” they were going to wrap them nicely. Nop! They used the remainders of the roll they use at the store to wrap for free, only they charged me 15 dollars, 2 per book. When I opened the box the wrapping were ripped. Can they blame the mail? Nop! The box outside was impecable.
Why go back to Barnes and Noble? We have Borders, and zillion ways to get books online, including Amazon. Barnes and Noble can continue spending millions to attract customers their poor customer service loses, due to the poorest management on earth.
Gook luck to the Book tycoon!
I, the literature professor and book lover will simply tune-out!
January 2, 2008 at 12:03 pm
pwood- Yes I think their day of reckoning is coming…
Maria- Wow. You know I found all over the web people are complaining about Barnes and Noble online. What a nightmare. And they didn’t ship the books they told me that they couldn’t stop until a week after.
January 2, 2008 at 1:17 pm
I have to agree with Maria Bolivar. I ordered a Pilates-exercise with baby DVD for my wife because I thought my amazon.com order was going to be late (they actually came through and delivered on the 24th.) I ordered the DVD and the expedited air shipping bc the order page stated I would receive the items by the 24th. When I got my confirmation email, the date had been changed, and I could no longer cancel the order-even though it wasn’t scheduled to ship until the 24th now.
So today, I spent the better part of an hour with a csr having her tell me that the website clearly states that the item had a 2-3 day processing time that changes the arrival time. In 40 minutes, I could not get it through this lady’s head that the last order & shipping page I saw before confirming the order stated that the item would be delivered by the 24th regardless of processing time.
Count me in on never using B&N online again, or their retail centers either. With Amazon, Borders, and the rest there is just no need to put up with such miserable treatment.
I figure I’ll get all my stuff together and write the B&N president with my tale of woe and relay how his competitor redeemed themselves. I also plan on sending letter requesting a refund and invoking my right to pursue triple damages via M.G.L. Chapter93A and contacting the MA Attorney General regarding the Mail or Telephone Order Merchandise rule. Putting up delivery dates and then weaseling out of them due to supposed “processing time” warnings is ridiculous.
I know I won’t be shopping at B&N anymore, and I’ll be encouraging everyone I know to do the same.
January 2, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Jamie- Amen to that. That’s exactly what happened to me. Utterly disgraceful!
February 16, 2008 at 3:34 am
I’m sure you don’t realize this, but the brick and mortar stores have a completely different ordering system than bn.com. I understand completely your frustration, but the girl standing at the desk was likely a holiday hire that really couldn’t help you. She should have tried to grab a supervisor, sure, but you really shouldn’t place your anger on her–she’s just an hourly employee, not the collective of BARNES AND NOBLE. It was probably extremely busy being Christmas time, and I’d bet there was a line 15 people deep all saying “I JUST have a question!”
The brick and mortar stores NEVER promise a 3 day shipping time. It is pretty much always 3-8 business days.
And yes, UPS sucks.
April 15, 2008 at 10:04 am
God they do suck . i am not going to order naything with them period . they charged me more that hey should have , after making 5 calls still yet to recive my refund for the blanace amount .